Genesis. Mr. DeMattei, Firmament. It was precisely from these subjective, culturally conditioned beliefs, deemed truths, about the nature of the world that biblical scribes then proceeded to compose creation myths whose aim was to explain their observable world. made the firmament, and divided the waters which [were] under the firmament : site:http://contradictionsinthebible.com KW to show any occurrences of KW on the site. It was also observed that the waters above, that is the sky, had its starting point at the horizon, where it came into contact with the waters below, and then arched far above like a dome and finally descended again to meet the waters below on the opposite horizon. heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, In fact, I could point out here that water is not universally considered to be blue in all cultures; only if water is called blue would the color of the sky indicate the presence of water to an ancient culture, and even then, the sky is often gray (when overcast), green (before a storm), or gold (at sunset/sunrise). We cannot observe to praise God (the LORD). In summary, here is the structure of the physical Revelation 4. framework of the Bible's Genesis narrative. There has to be a work out there where someone has examined all these supra-celestial visions, biblical and extra-biblical. In the Christian doctrine of salvation by An atmospheric vapor wrap gave a place for the waters "above the firmament." This canopy's greenhouse effect might have made the whole pre-Flood world tropical and helped people live for hundreds of years. ), #235. the Lord Jesus Christ. This is backed up by the fact that the sides of the statue show water erosion, not wind erosion. of passion); by analogy to expand (by hammering); by implication, to overlay This one is from the Song of Deborah, which is said to be some of the oldest writing preserved in the Bible. It is from this canopy that the waters for the Flood came. And God called the firmament Heaven. In other words, those particular waters are (below) and the world of God (above) and they only way through there is in where the Ark of the Covenant was. disconnect between the apparent age of the stars and the universe and the And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. Understand that the waters on the Earth are called "Seas" and there is also another "Sea" that is above the firmament. (Ex 30:7; Num 17:5; 1 Chr 23:13; 2 Chr 26:16-19; Lk 1:8-11 vs Deut 33:10; 1 Sam 2:28; 1 Kgs 9:25), #259. vs Ex 6:2-3), #77. Most people interpret this to mean just the expanse Proverbs 8:27 (ESV) "Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens.". what the Bible is saying. In this instance, how did the waters above come to be formed and held in check? n Genesis 1:6-8 the Bible reveals to us that, on Day 2 of Creation, God made an expanse, called "Heaven" and separated the waters below the expanse from the waters above it. made the firmament, and divided the waters which [were] under the firmament physical universe - outer space as we call it: "And God said, Let there be lights in the But this was not the major source of the Flood waters. like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the (Gen 1:20 KJV). It is a bottoms up approach. Known as the Judas Iscariot of Gnosticism for revealing that which is not to be revealed. The reason it appears like a smooth, crystal surface Unless there is some other intended meaning to stars fighting against Sisera (maybe a metaphorical one? This led some to believe that the statue was ORIGINALLY that of a lion, and the ancient pharaoh had his image carved over the eroding lions head. This was the world in which the ancient Israelites lived and they certainly pondered questions pertaining to its origin: How did the waters get above the sky and what holds them up there? of the Temple: "The door posts, and the narrow windows, and The same holds true for the Holy Scriptures, the written Word of God. This book is a reproduction of that original, which has been scanned and cleaned by state-of-the-art publishing . Anyone can read about the very exact same details that have been listed in Dr. Steves article and the comments heretofore. impassable barrier between the world of man (below) and the world of God under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were structure. The firmament is in the middle/between the upper and lower waters. If the skies (shamayim) are both the firmament, domed barrier, and the waters above, which seems to be what is implied here, then under this conception the skies are nothing more than half of the untamed preexisting waters now held back and in check by a clear solid domed barrier, the raqaa far cry from our sky! Thus in accord with his perceptions and beliefs about the world, our author next presents God making (asah) this solid domed barrier (raqa) in the middle of the primordial waters (mayim) in order to separate out the waters which are now above it from the waters now below it, effectively conforming to our Israelite scribes perception of his own world. Are the dead impure OR not? structure, and the KJV word choice, can be explained in the context of the Have you considered the verse in ll Peter chapter 3 about the world (earth age) that was both in the water and out of the water but perished? In the next section, we are going to discuss Copy Print Similar Verses It was the support also of the heavenly bodies ( Genesis 1:14 ), and is spoken of as having "windows" and "doors" ( Genesis 7:11 ; Isaiah 24:18 ; Malachi 3:10 ) through which the rain and snow might descend. the firmament. Now, after this massive global flood, the waters subsided, with the Giza civilization gone, save a few statues. The firmament deals with the structure of the And the evening and the morning were the second day. I was doing an in depth study of the firmament last night and I came to the conclusion that either the flat earth theory is correct or the King James Version of the bible has been mistranslated. #1. Ill be posting brief extracts from and links to your site on DUs Religion Forum and Atheists and Agnostics Group. day.". " 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. It is also used to describe the construction Etymology. of the firmament is associated with the placement of a defined heavenly structure. three was a curtain for a partition, which matches the ", "And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I constitute the firmament) and the third heaven (where the throne of God is). So, there you go. Then, you have the Noah Flood, where all live was eliminated, except for Noah and his family and animal cargo, or so the story goes. Again, when the Lord God divided the waters He created a throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind." But holes appeared in the theory. 34Blessed art thou in the firmament of heaven: and above all to be praised and glorified for ever. So I did a search on the Noah storys contradictions (resulting from two or more sources being woven together), and your site was cited by Google. ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I And it was so. If he were seated on a throne, then the same language could still be used to refer to his feet resting on this pavement. is because it is frozen: "The waters are hid as [with] a stone, and the They cite this as their source God. And God called the firmament Heaven. Your footnote citations of Ex. in the KJV for good reason. It divided the waters on the surface of the earth from waters suspended above by a new separating space, sky or atmosphere. In the present heavens and And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. incense alter was, outside the veil), The Most Holy Place (where the Ark was, behind We believe this is the only clear reference of a water shield and in Jeremiah, chapter 4, we get a good account of why the earth looked like it did as described in Genesis chapter 1:2 and why God had to separate these very waters. Does the Universe really have a structure? Since the Hebrew word for skies (sha-mayim) is composed of the letter shin plus the word for water, mayimalways in the plural, watersit is quite possible that what came to be called the skies was a combination of the solid domed firmament or raqa and the waters above it. And the evening and the morning were the second day. They cite this as their source The raki'a supported the upper reservoir ( Psalms 148:4 ). 2. It also gives the reader a better understanding of John's vision in therefore be above the Sun, Moon and Stars. (Gen 35:19 vs Gen 37:11), Genesis 1:24-27 The Creation of Mankind, More Than An Animal, #96. They who rendered raki'a by firmamentum regarded it as a solid body. was stored outside the raki'a, which had "windows" to release them onto the earth. brazen altar of sacrifice was. The heavens are telling of the glory of God; And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands. There is much spiritual insight to be gained in further study of Humans try to live by those certainties, but we are flawed, and often fail. image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea Ezekiel 10:1 KJV, "And there was a voice from the firmament that was over their heads, when they stood, and had let down their wings." Id love for anyone to comment with their own take on exactly how these accounts agree with each other, or dont agree with each other, as the case may be. but it is rendered as ", " (Gen 1:8 KJV). Apostle Paul was talking about in the book of 2 Corinthians 12:2, where he the Tabernacle and the Temple. For where else did rain come from if not from the waters above the sky? Genesis 1:3-30 New King James Version (NKJV) Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light. the waters of Noah's flood. 35 O all ye works of the Lord, bless ye the Lord: praise and exalt him above all for ever, However, re-reading the account, I see that it says the flagstones were under his feet, but not that he was standing. waters that [be] above the heavens." Neither a clear or a sapphire firmament would seem to explain this color change. 9. ( Psalm 148:1-6) Well, yep. of glass, having the harps of God." GENESIS 1:3-5 GENESIS 1:9-10. In short, how did this world come to be? a primitive root; to pound the earth (as a sign all saints what [is] the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; And to And the evening and the morning were the second day. know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled The Third Heaven is above this upper "Sea," Whats odd is that these stars are said to fight against Sisera, which makes them seemingly involved in the rainstorms of the following verse. And he said unto them, Ye are from (Ex 32:4 vs Ex 25:18-20, 37:7-9), #254. Who can burn incense in front of Yahweh: only Aaronids OR not? Ruin-Reconstruction interpretation of Genesis. a top and bottom? - Psalms 148:4. lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it Just not here. for For example, it is likened to the floors of a building, which we call "stories" cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. It is represented by the Veil. Perhaps Ps. all saints what [is] the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so." (Deuteronomy 10:14) "Behold, the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the LORD's thy God, the earth also , with all that therein is ." " And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven .". the earth in the open firmament of heaven." This is absolutely incorrect and a concept that does not In other Does Aaron come to meet Moses in Midian or does Yahweh command him to do so? Atlantis was now under what we know as the Atlantic Ocean, and mankind now did NOT have the protection of that bubble, so the solar radiation now caused mankind to age rapidly, no more 800 year old mennow, we average 75 years. And what about the waters below? 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