And in prison, as I mentioned, there was that book ban and I could not have been more delighted on the day that I finally got into the library at Belmarsh. But more that, my conviction is spent now, its gone. And thats the reason why I resigned. That was very clear, I think. And thats absolutely not how I feel. And that is, I have to say, largely thanks to Eloise because shes, maybe well get on to it, the reason I got through is her. [48], However, the Crown Prosecution Service said in December 2010 that it had determined that there was insufficient evidence to charge Coulson over allegations that he was aware of phone-hacking at the publication. Coulson edited one of. Andy: Better than the alternative. For me and for Eloise, ask us honestly, was this the worst thing that ever happened to us? It was reported that as a condition of his early release on home detention curfew (HDC) Coulson would have to wear an electronic tag until he had served half of his full sentence. And a whole lot of stuff happened at the News of the World which should not have happened during my time, and Im sorry about that because the impact of it on an awful lot of people was, the result of it was a lot of pain and a lot of hurt for people. So I did. Coulson Brothers now has the largest capacity on the Muskoka lakes, with five barges capable of transporting any size or weight. [36] Kate Robertson of One Young World told the Guardian "He can't do One Young World work at the moment, that is absolutely clear". Did you do a lot of that? Do you sort of feel, oddly, that all that crisis brought you closer together? [16][17] This trial started on 11 May 2015 because of the general election. Its an unnatural thing to do to relive your life and, by the way, if all you are doing is reliving your life through a negative prism, its a fundamentally unhealthy thing to do. Coulson, who now runs a successful strategy business, talks candidly and honestly about his regrets, resilience and recovery. That was very difficult. [21] Former News of the World editors Rebekah Brooks and Andy Coulson were having an affair for at least six years from the late 1990s, the phone-hacking trial has heard. [34], On 7 February 2011, Coulson and his wife established 'Elbrus Consultants Ltd'. But youve never shared your own experience. I quite like the one-in-five theory; that out of five people that you meet, three of them will be indifferent, one will think that youre an absolute superstar and the other one will never want to look you in the face again. And I think that is a clear lesson, that the what if is as pointless as the why me?. I felt it was a bit on the steep side but it was within the parameters, so its up to the judge, the sentencing in technical terms. I wanted them to visit me in an open prison. [62], Coulson was charged with having committed perjury during the trial in 2010 of Tommy and Gail Sheridan. I saw some pretty unpleasant things. I love a good book, both fiction and non-fiction. I have to say I managed to get to that point reasonably quickly and I ran it as a campaign. Because then you know actually, its not just a matter of getting through this, Im into it all over again. So, although they were still pretty young, theyd had a crash course in the law and in the legal process, if you like, already. Andy: Well I will always argue that the mistakes were not criminal, because thats what I spent a lot of time standing in a witness box arguing and because its what I believe. Jane: Well, talking of which, as a journalist, we also know the picture that everybody wants is of somebody in the prison van being taken away. I just wish that it hadnt happened. "[29][30], In July 2011 questions were raised about Coulson's security vetting at Number Ten. Hoare speaking on Five Live, Drive, 3 September 2010. Prison is a, very obviously, stark place but it is also packed with emotion. And there was a bit of joshing as well, particularly with prison officers when I would kind of complain about the process or I would ask the question, Why am I still here when I think I should have been categorised by now? and Id get a wry look that says, Well Tory cuts, Andy.' [13] He was sentenced on 4 July 2014 to 18 months in prison. This podcast is about a crisis and how you get through it. Search instead in Creative? Showing Editorial results for andy coulson. And I made mistakes in my personal life as well, and so Ive never at any point felt why me? about it because thats just not how I feel. Andy: My sentence, having been found guilty of the crime, was probably about right. In 2005, Andy Coulson was the award-winning editor of the News of the World, presiding over a culture of ruthless exploitation. Jane: In his memoir, David Cameron wrote that he was wrong to insist that you were innocent until proven guilty and that he should have removed you in 2010 until the scandal snowballed. Episode 8. I think that the danger with this conversation, if Im brutally honest with you, as we sit here right at the start of it, is that it somehow comes off as woe is me. One of the principles of prison is that everyone has to be on the same level. It was between governors and there was a proper shortage of staff. I mean thats why I think I have instinctively never really taken that sort of approach because I dont much like that. Was there ever a point through all of this, the trial or prison or any of it, that you cried? I wasnt concerned because obviously it wasnt true, so I wasnt troubled by that, but I knew that my family would have read it. Jane: We now know, obviously, that you came through all of that, you served your time, the Scottish situation went away. So, what are yours? Entirely self-inflicted, entirely my fault. Andy: Well its a mixture of things, I think, as it is for most people. And actually, I dont feel much right now at all, life is good. Andy: Yeah, I have occasional grey days. Were going to put you to work. And we had a lot of fun, is the truth of it. So, Harvey, Monty, Finn. [19], Coulson grew up in Wickford, Essex. In 2005 at the age of 16, Patrick Collison was the recipient of the 41 st Young Scientist of the Year for his work with Lisp. Im with a bunch of other people who are in the same situation as me and Ive just got to make the best of it really. I wasnt released on good behaviour, thats the system. Jane: Hard not to be, though, I would have thought. Ex News International chief executive Brooks, former Sun . Youve got to find your match and Ive definitely done that. I had plenty of offers and I just didnt. I was treated perfectly decently and fairly but its just something that you think to yourself, I cant quite believe this is happening to me. He commented about the News of the World allegations "I stand by what I've said about those events but when the spokesman needs a spokesman it's time to move on. Andrew Edward Coulson (born 21 January 1968)[2][3] is an English journalist and political strategist. Andy Coulson, the former Downing Street Communications Director and News of the World editor, has given his first detailed interview about the scandal that ended, in 2014, with a spell in HMP Belmarsh. Its constantly incoming and my job, in fact, was to manage those crises. So, they made me an education orderly and I went and worked with a brilliant woman who runs the education programme at Hollesley Bay and I was effectively her teaching assistant, if you like. During that time Andy faced three criminal trials. So thats how I spent quite a bit of my time there. We built a brilliant team, we had the coalition. Andy: There were moments when I felt utter despair. [1] They have three children. I think there are people who probably think that the door should have been locked forever. Andy: I think I would, to be honest, yeah, because Im just not outraged enough by much any more. In the second extract from his new book Hack Attack, Nick Davies. Did you ever feel scared? Jane: So, youre packing your bag. Thats a memory I didnt want my boys to have and I regret that. The purpose of the company is not recorded by Companies House, but is reportedly a public relations agency. The Pickwick Papers, I think, I would probably choose as the favourite. Thats why I resigned from the News of the World and then when I was in Downing Street, Im there thinking how on Earth can I do this job? I wont ever be at peace with it, I suspect in one sense, because it hurts. Ask away. Again, that came out in a previous podcast, I think with Jeremy. What did crisis teach you about friendship? Andy: Absolutely, yeah. Jane: So, youve known the power and privilege of being a newspaper editor and advisor to David Cameron. Coulson, 46, who also worked as director of . And I thought, this is just hopeless, Im his Director of Communications and Im learning things in the paper. There were so many different things that were unravelling in my life that I realised that if I tried to deal with them all, I would probably go mad. I want to focus on what we dont know, which is obviously the theme of this podcast, and how you handled that crisis point of your life and, of course, the effect that it had on your family. And then we got closer to it and as it looked likely that we were going to succeed, David sat me down and said, I need you and I want you to stay. Andy: Yeah, yeah. You have got to make a plan and youve got to focus on the things that youve got control of. Because they, obviously, are the most important thing in my life, along with Eloise, and I wanted them to see that I was OK. Find Andy Coulson's phone number, address, and email on Spokeo, the leading online directory for contact information. As a newspaper editor, its a weekly crisis, daily crisis when youre working on The Sun, which is of course where I spent most of my time, most of my career. [60][61], Coulson was to face a retrial, together with the News of the World's former royal editor Clive Goodman, after the jury failed to agree a verdict on two other charges of conspiring to cause misconduct in public office in relation to the alleged purchase of confidential royal phone directories in 2005 from a palace police officer. And to have a prime minister on television, while my jury was still out, although theyd delivered a verdict on the intercepting communications, they hadnt delivered a verdict on another charge that was later dropped. Dont try and solve it all. Now, she already knew about it, but having it made public was not easy, of course, and then you went to prison. I remember reading, after I came out, that I had been released after just five months on good behaviour. And although I stand by the position I took in court, in regard to the allegations that I ended up being found guilty of, my view is still that I didnt break the law. [15] Other defendants were cleared. Andy: Its a wretched moment and you know immediately really that youre going to be going to prison. I think, as you say, if she had decided enough was enough I dont think there is anyone who would have blamed her for it. And it was over 20 years of my life, Jane, as you know. Youve got to be either kind of 200% enthusiastic about something or youve got to be outraged. Jane: We talked a bit, obviously, there about family and knowing the value of your family. Theres also one thats totally out of your control and that is random violence. Jane: I mean, in fairness, Ive known you, what, 25 years and you were like that before you had a crisis. I mean, there were lots of theories at the time. Jane: I wanted to talk about Eloise now. Andy: We had lunch and we talked about politics, as you might expect, and life after politics which is, of course, where he is now. The Coulson Brothers - Mills Brothers Medley -Bass Guitar & Vocals - Curt CoulsonLead Guitar & Vocals - Jack CoulsonKeyboards & Vocals - Otis CliftonDrums & . Your job is to be judgemental. I was an editor of the News of the World for four years. No one knew that at that stage. Suddenly youre on trial at the Old Bailey and youre hearing the word guilty; tell us about that moment. On 7 July 2009, John Prescott called on leader of the Conservative Party David Cameron to remove Coulson from his position, after The Guardian revealed further details about phone-hacking by the News of the World. And politics is an hourly crisis, right? 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