Keep in mind that they wouldnt remove the existing switches so that trains from Brooklyn College could still reverse at Franklin and access New Lots or Utica. I have two comments. The Utica Avenue station is an express station on the IND Fulton Street Line of the New York City Subway. [3] And this is exactly what you or I would do in their shoes. Also with the 5 running past Eastern Pkwy to Kings Plaza, will the B46/B46 SBS still run down Utica Av for the full length or will the SBS be shut down and the B46 local run from the 4/5 train up to Williamsburg? Given the upfront costs of building it that seems like a waste (yes, 2nd Ave only hits that with the Q but it is at least designed to add the T later on). So while not impossible it is more complicated and it is dependent on an additional service running down Fulton. Contents 1 History 2 Station layout 2.1 Unfinished station 2.2 Exits Drawing fantasy lines on paper is far more fun when you have unlimited possibilities but if we are planning out a project today there are some real world considerations that come first. SAS-Grand Central future awkward? There seems to me to be two sections of this plan: the Worth St-South 4th-Stuyvesant Ave section and the Utica Ave section. At Nostrand Avenue and Fulton St, provisions were made for a connection to the proposed Bedford Ave line. The first plan offers the highest operational flexibility and allows a continuation of both local and express trains to access Nostrand Ave but would cost close to $1 billion and require extensive excavation. Crown HeightsUtica Avenue station was constructed as part of the Eastern Parkway Line. But boring tunnels is much more common these days. Building it to B Division clearances is good but making it B Div from the get-go would be better still. Extensions of the IRT subway east or south of the station have been proposed since the line's planning in the 1910s, which included terminating the line at Buffalo Avenue just east of the station, or extending the line down Utica Avenue towards Flatbush Avenue and Avenue U near Kings Plaza. 34 St- Penn Station. and Park Aves commuter train viaduct looks good all the time. THE IRT IS 3/4 THE SIZE OF THE IND/BMT FOR A REASON. Not that it would do anything for tunnel though. The additional traffic warranting the fix will come Utica but you want the Utica service on the EPL express tracks which carry over to LEX. Eastern Py Utica Av. Unusually, there are two mezzanine levels; the upper mezzanine level was closed off after a 1995 renovation, and the lower mezzanine level is actually the platform level of the unbuilt Utica Avenue line. And another commenter hit upon phasing. B: I wouldnt worry much about curves coming into terminals. Located under Eastern Parkway near Utica Avenue in Crown Heights, Brooklyn, it is served by the 4 train at all times and the 3 train at all times except late nights. While there are arguments to be made for extending the Nostrand Ave Line south I would argue that with the addition of Utica Ave that demand would be reduced as riders coming from the east or southeast would take Utica over a bus to Nostrand. In order to avoid trains passing at grade you need to segregate the local and express trains. Connecting the currently planned SAS to Fultons local tracks involves building zero junctions and minimal interlining. After the 1990s renovation of the Utica Avenue station, the mezzanine was shortened using cinder-block walls and the current tiling in the intermediate level, hiding the chain-link fence and the door behind it. They will have wider entries, pathways and platforms so they wont have to be rebuilt to greater capacity later, as is being done to so many of them now. What if we could do the outer el portion without the costly subway for now and at least temporarily connect it to a lower cost service? [2] The Reid Avenue El station, which was originally named Utica Avenue and was formerly above the current subway station, closed on May 31, 1940.[5]. The full-time side at the eastern (railroad south) end has two staircases from each platform going up to a crossover (the western ones go up to a ramp that leads to the main fare control area), where a turnstile bank and two exit-only turnstiles provide access to and from the station. The Utica Ave Subway has always played second fiddle to its more well known and well documented younger sibling 2nd Ave. 7. Taking this one step further this also supposes that, as the Worth St Line was to serve a similar catchment area as the BMT Centre Street Line (J train) that the new subways through the Lower East Side would replace the Centre St Line, thus leaving it up for abandonment (if this seems too preposterous keep in mind that half of this line is already, for all intents and purposes, abandoned). .mw-parser-output .RMbox{box-shadow:0 2px 2px 0 rgba(0,0,0,.14),0 1px 5px 0 rgba(0,0,0,.12),0 3px 1px -2px rgba(0,0,0,.2)}.mw-parser-output .RMinline{float:none;width:100%;margin:0;border:none}.mw-parser-output table.routemap{padding:0;border:0;border-collapse:collapse;background:transparent;white-space:nowrap;line-height:1.2;margin:auto}.mw-parser-output table.routemap .RMcollapse{margin:0;border-collapse:collapse;vertical-align:middle}.mw-parser-output table.routemap .RMreplace{margin:0;border-collapse:collapse;vertical-align:middle;position:absolute;bottom:0}.mw-parser-output table.routemap 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Independent Subway System (IND) from its previous Brooklyn terminus at Jay StreetBorough Hall, which opened three years earlier, to Rockaway Avenue. This is to avoid overcrowding issues at Franklin/Nevins, and to provide more alternatives along each corridor. Pseudo-viaducts. This staircase leads up to a small mezzanine where there is a token booth and turnstiles. Eliminating the bottleneck and interlining will improve frequency at Franklin so the transfer wont take too long. The point of Utica Ave is that riders are trying to get downtown so who would ever ride the 4 all the way out just to switch to the A when they could have just gotten on the A at the first place. MTA. station count on BWY7 and 8AV between 110th and 72nd. On the opposite side, from Eastern Parkway to Empire Blvd, the slope descends 66 feet. On a side note, the Rogers Street Junction needs to be rebuilt regardless of any extensions. Its a dense, transit dependent corridor with a recently opened and popular Select Bus Service line and the Utica Ave stations on the 3/4 and A/C have some of the highest ridership on their respective lines. Stations are going to be more expensive no matter what because so much more is expected of them now. Say we got together and bought the local NBA franchise. Nostrand is also a major corridor, and demand would be enough for both buses and subway. Thank you. Climbing the steps to the intermediate level, there are locked doors that serve as access to the unfinished platforms. Oh yeah. So thats what the future holds: deep tunnels and expensive stations. The line's section to Atlantic Avenue was part of Contract 2 of the Interborough Rapid Transit Company (IRT)'s plan to construct an extension of the original subway, Contract 1. They will have elevators or ramps for handicapped access. Late nights a shuttle will run from Franklin Av to New Lots Av. 11. W 34 St and 7th Ave, W 33 St and 7th Ave, W 32 St and 7th Ave. One island platform, two side platforms. This Fascinating Abandoned Train Station In Arizona Is A True Piece Of History. This final station is worth considering because even though half the catchment area is parkland and the Mill Basin canal the station would serve the popular Kings Plaza Mall and there is space for a modern bus terminal for better service around southeastern Brooklyn and to the Rockaways. For example, why build a Lafayette Av branch off of Crosstown when instead a cheap connection between the (G)/(J)/(M) could be built at Broadway. The station's two exits are located at either end. The important thing about the shorter option is that installing these switches could be done overnight or over a weekend and wouldnt require long term, disruptive construction. I outlined my plans for 2nd Ave in a previous post but one thing I only mentioned in passion was how Phase 4 could be achieved cheaper if it was connected to Nassau St after Chatham Sq (as in, 2nd Ave would not connect to Centre St by Bowery by to Nassau St by Chambers). Same goes for if a problem happens by Flatbush or Utica, a train can be easily detoured to another branch. No doubt they will propose some deep bore subway with expensive stations that will take a decade or more to build.. So on late nights obviously the 2/4 would run local. [14] The line was to be extended along Flatbush Avenue and Eastern Parkway to Buffalo Street as a four-track subway line, and then along East 98th Street and Livonia Avenue to New Lots Avenue as an elevated two-track line, with provisions for the addition of a third track. Close by to where youd have your subway portal at Kings Highway is the Bay Ridge branch. The Utica Avenue subway station in Crown Heights, Brooklyn. I, My 6) above, stacking the tracks. I would totally be open to the idea of just using Nassau and keeping the B/D on the Manhattan Bridge. This station is compliant with the 1990 Americans With Disabilities Act. The station opened on August 23, 1920, as part of an extension of the IRT Eastern Parkway Line by the Interborough Rapid Transit Company. The A/C line in Brooklyn cant be tampered with, because both trains are crowded during rush hours, and the A or C cant be diverted before Broadway Junction, because then at the nearest express station, your going to see a huge crowd, and the point of Broadway Junction is to drop off the passangers to other trains to get home or to get to work. The two street staircases lead out to the two malls on either side of the main road of Eastern Parkway on the west side of Schenectady Avenue. Late nights/weekends the 4 will go to Kings Plaza. Located under Eastern Parkway near Utica Avenue in Crown Heights, Brooklyn, it is served by the 4 train at all times and the 3 train at all times except late nights. Since we are only building Utica and not the larger network designed to replace the elevated that means that the subway would be competing with the existing trains for riders and based on ridership statistics the stations along the route arent exactly bursting at the seams: in 2015 annual ridership numbers. Half a political lifetime ago, Bill de Blasio seemed interested in extending transit to under-served neighborhoods on his own. que mangent les gendarmes insectes. How can build the Utica Ave Subway? Touring: F train to East Broadway. There is another part of the IND plan which, as far as I can tell, no one has figured out or brought up yet. Place station house under tracks in median. I just disagree with a Worth St subway being the best choice, since unlike the Second Avenue tracks, the Eighth Av local does have capacity constraints in the railroad north direction (both CPW local and 53 St have two services each, which is about as much as you want to push on a pair of tracks before service gets too unreliable). On the Utica Ave. subway, a half-baked idea with no champion written by Benjamin Kabak February 28, 2017 The Utica Ave. subway extension has once again disappeared into the ether of New York City politics. The problem here is between these two streets one lane will have to be teared up and bus stops will have to be relocated and detoured, which messes up a lot of commuters daily travel. Even today Utica makes too much sense. The center of the station slopes down and there is a lowered ceiling compared to the rest of the station. In fact Id discount any curve adjacent to a station by about 50%. This station's mezzanine and exterior can be seen in various points of 6ix9ines music video for the song "Kooda". Most of the subway system in New York City no longer has that feel . It stands to reason, then, that the massive South 4th Subway with branches to Utica Ave and along Myrtle Ave was designed to replace the Broadway and Myrtle Ave Els as well. Although not in the official report, soon after it was proposed to connect 14th St to Utica Ave. While this would leave said train with two terminals, Far Rockaway and Ozone Park, this would leave said train heavily congested, because most passengers want to go from Midtown to East New York or The Rockaways, not Midtown to Kings Plaza. The station's other fare control area has two staircases going down to each platform, a crossover, part-time turnstile bank and customer assistance booth, high entry/exit turnstiles that provide full-time access to and from the station, and two staircases going up to either side of Fulton Street between Stuyvesant and Schenectady Avenues. I was talking with someone at the MTA and they mentioned that the planners were playing with the idea of building the relay along side the Bay Ridge because there was more space/cheaper than extending a tunnel south. Yes, it would take ages for New York to make the Plan for Action setup even remotely possible, but the fact is that the smaller size of the IRT inherently bottlenecks passenger capacity (as known by Lexington Avenue) and also is an operational pain-in-the-neck, since the IRT cant use IND platforms. I disagree that people can just simply take a bus, but extending the Nostrand Av line south is needed. The I-beams and other steel work along the track walls are painted in dark blue. As part of the NYS Public Service Commission report in 1912 on new lines the Commission recommended a 4 track 14th St Subway with branches through Williamsburg. Look at the ceiling from the open platform, and at the mezzanine area at the north end. South of Kings Highway would be stations at Flatlands Ave, Ave N and after the line turns down Flatbush Ave, at Ave U-Kings Plaza. There is actually going to be a place to connect that will be much easier; the Second Avenue Subways current iteration is supposed to have lower level storage tracks from 21st to 9th Sts. The Utica Avenue subway would bring new rapid transit service to parts of Crown Heights . An elevated extension known as Route No. It looks to be about two miles long. Another weekend or overnight wont kill us! Hughes and Brooklyn Officials to Join in a Formal Celebration of Event To-day", "Exercises In City Hall. When you were envisioning your Montague Tunnel connection did you explore a Hanson Place route as an alternative? Crown Heights Utica Avenue Station. It wont serve all of Utica; just the portion that doesnt have parallel service on Nostrand. Abandoned Jerome Post Office (Jerome) This mile-high town in the Black Hills of Yavapai County was once a thriving mining community where rich stores of copper, gold and silver ore were discovered in the late 19 th century. south of 63rd V from Bypass to Utica via Williamsburg, 15 TPH each. Anyway: I think that lots of expansions where there is no ROW to just place cars on, instead could be put into service as light rail (granted there are no obstacles like narrow roads and triggered politicians who cause everything to stop working) could be a nice supplement to the subway (free transfers too!) Not a Hitch in the Service. In the intermediate level of the mezzanine, the closed section of the mezzanine was blocked only by a chain-link fence. Bring line to ground at terminal. Parkchester on the 6. The only As for the bus Im sure it will go back to being local but if the demand is there for SBS (especially thru Bed Stuy) theres nothing stopping it from remaining. The application was approved, and the IRT extension opened on May 1, 1908. With more TPH there will be less crowding at Franklin or Nevins. [21], This underground station serves local and express trains in a two-level layout with two island platforms. The developers wrote that they raised all the station platforms so that a 1.5% grade would help the trains accelerate. The new trains would be served by trains from Seventh Avenue. The line was proposed to cut across town to Columbus Circle, one avenue block away. The 8th Ave Subway was designed to replace the 9th Ave El, the 6th Ave and 2nd Ave Subways to replace elevateds running above their avenues. MTA Bus - B14/B17 - Eastern Pkwy & Utica Av. The gritty, graffiti-ridden New York City subway system is quite a character in Joker. [19][20], In 1981, the Metropolitan Transportation Authority listed the station among the 69 most deteriorated stations in the subway system. 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There is an active tower at the south end of the platform while a closed one exists on the east of the lower level. mind=the same Given that the L is now the busier of the two lines and needs relief, badly, it would be much more sensible IMO to go east across E 7 St to stations at Tompkins Square Park, Metropolitan/Bedford, Hope/Union (G) (L), Humboldt/Montrose (L), and Myrtle Av (J)(M)(Z), to provide a faster alternative to the L. I dont really think theres much value in duplicating Broadway services just because S 4 St exists. For a first phase, I could see going only as far as Clarendon Road and the following trackage. I never said I disagreed with staging it so that Utica is first built. Are you saying that IRT cant handle the demand? Also the train that stays down Fulton past Utica would now have 4 terminals, Euclid Ave, Ozone Park, and The Rockaways. That has what, a current limitation of 26 tph? In the Bronx the Grand Concourse Subway was designed to at least compete with the Jerome Ave elevated if not eventually replace it and in Brooklyn the Fulton St Subway was built to replace the Fulton El out to Queens with provisions built to allow a connection with the Jamaica Ave elevated. This leads me to propose that the first part of the plan to be built is the Utica Ave stretch from Eastern Parkway to Kings Plaza connecting to the IRT Eastern Parkway Line but with provisions for a future extension north (all tunnels would be built to the larger B division specs). It will extend easterly from Buffalo avenue and Eastern parkway via East 98th street and Livonia avenue to New Lots avenue. The MTA has only been making these small extensions, the last major one (affected more than 3 lines) was in 1967-1968, which changed the BB, T, TT, D, F, JJ, M, MM, and the QT, and added the QJ, B, and KK. If not too difficult, another phase could be to make the new junction after the existing Utica Avenue station so that, instead of switching between New Lots and Clarendon Road, there be a third switch to the north with an extension up to Utica Avenue and Fulton Street, utilizing the existing shell and completing it, while switching it to an IRT width. The Manhattan-bound platform has its metalwork painted in golden yellow and the tiles beneath the trim line in dark blue. Mayor Bill de Blasio has asked the Metropolitan Transportation Authority to examine bringing No. Modern giant boring machines make drilling more cost effective and its common for all the tunneling to be complete years before the line can open, primarily because of stations. The new IND subway replaced the BMT Fulton Street El. The 2 track Worth St Line would require a 3.15 mile tunnel from Tribeca to Williamsburg. Looking at Census data based on commuting patterns of riders coming from the two zip codes along Utica Ave the primary destination for most riders is downtown Brooklyn with Midtown West second. on Jamaica Ave to burrow the Broadway El into Fulton Lines station. The IRT built their Utica Ave station west of Utica Ave with turnouts in the track walls so that a branch could split. The big attraction to politicians of boring subways instead of cut-and-cover is that it removes so much uncertainty. why did you completely destroy the jamaica line, cant we just make a 3/4 line extension? With these and the IRT provisions in place Utica Ave was always so tantalizingly close. [10] The unfinished upper level station was to be built for a subway line down Utica Avenue as part of the IND Second System.[11]. Could be Im missing an important element here. Even with CBTC you are limited to about 10-12 tph on each of the (now) three local services (it most definitely does not turn out 15tph on both local service now, closer to 15tph for both combined). I also think that building Utica would take some ridership away form Nostrand (those whom transfer via bus) so we should focus on Utica and then see what Nostrand looks like. My first thought was that this doesnt jibe with LEX being the busiest single line but then I tallied the ridership numbers for the three lines that go up the west side for a number thats 2 and a half times as big. 480-foot B locals are actually 31 feet shorter than IRT local trains yet have more room because theyre wider. But I think it was for a different one than the four you give. Looking at a modern take on IND plan, since the Chrystie St Connection rerouted the 6th Ave express trains over the Manhattan Bridge and the extra local service to Williamsburg, there is no extra capacity along 6th Ave to connect with the new line. 5 all times except late nights, 6. Nice ideas so far! [22] This is the easternmost underground and four-track subway station on the Eastern Parkway Line; to the east (railroad south) of here, the local tracks rises and become the IRT New Lots Line, while the express tracks end at bumper blocks just under Ralph Avenue. Off-center over roadway. Yet youd have it built to B division clearances. In IND reports it was proposed to have the line remain as a subway until Ave J where it would ascend to the surface and run elevated, originally to Sheepshead Bay, then later a more simplified route down Flatbush Ave to Floyd Bennett Field. I would have to strongly object to abandoning Phase IV; that still leaves the entire SAS and Sixth Av LES stations without a direct connection to downtown (and thus fails the objective of relieving the Lex), leaves Water St underserved despite heavy employment density, and subjects SAS to the whims of the DeKalb interlocking. Youve presented an excellent case for ruling out Williamsburg. In fact, it makes pretty much every stop that the current B46SBS makes except for Winthrop, which IMO is not really deserving of a stop. Planning may have actually begun. Abandoned Mineral . ; Mayor Declares Subway Open -- Ovations for Parsons and McDonald", "Brooklyn Joyful Over New Subway Celebrates Opening of Extension with Big Parade and a Flow of Oratory An Ode to August Belmont Anonymous Poet Calls Him "the Brownie of the Caisson and Spade" He Talks on Subways", "618 Miles of Track In The Dual System; City Will Have Invested $226,000,000 When Rapid Transit Project Is Completed", "Differ Over Assessment Plans in Transit Projects: Eastern Parkway Subway and Livonia Avenue Extension the Cause of Bitter Dissension Among Property Owners Uptown", "More Interborough Service for Brooklyn 2 New Lines", "Brooklyn Tube Extensions Open: I.R.T. Queens has the big unmet demand; its got the 12th and 25th busiest stations in the system as TERMINALS! Better to have SAS Williamsburg via the 9th St storage tracks and SAS Fulton local as the obvious trunk line that needs new capacity. Then a tunnel would have to be built just outside the station. 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